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Old Nameless

AS14-68-9425
        labelled detail


Old Nameless is a distinctive crater dug into the north-facing slope of a ridge south of the landing site.  It's azimuth and distance are 146/2.6km from the LM and 176/2.6 km from Saddle Rock near the rim of Cone Crater.  This image is Figure 11 from USGS Professional Paper 880, "Geology of the Apollo 14 Landing Site in the Fra Mauro Highlands" and is a labeled detail from AS14-68-9425, a frame from the Station B2 panorama. See, also, a high-resolution detail of AS14-68-9425 made from the original film. Old Nameless features in many of the Hasselblad pans taken by the crew.







LROC detail

Detail from Lunar Reconnaisance Orbiter frame M104634241LE taken at 12:49:52 UTC on 11 August 2009.
Old Nameless is at the lower right; Cone Crater is at the upper right; and the LM is at the upper left
near the distinctive trio of craters called Triplet. The image above is reduced in size by a factor of three.
In a full-resolution version (
4.4 Mb ), the distance scale is 1.07 meters/pixel.
See, also, a detail from Figure 7 in USGS Professional Paper 880.






Naming Old Nameless

During planning and training for Apollo 15, 16 and 17, craters and other features were named by the crews and EVA CapComs.

Apollo 15 Commander Dave Scott recalled during the mission review for ALSJ that he, Jim Irwin, and EVA CapCom Joe Allen did most of the naming "We did most of it at the Cape during our post-dinner geology sessions".  See the full discussion at 122:04:08.  See, also, a related discussion at 146:49:02 in the A15LSJ in which geologist Jerry Schaber notes that he coined the name for Apollo 15's North Complex

Traverse maps on pages 35 and 36 in the Apollo 13 Press Kit indicate that crater names used during Apollo 14 - Cone, Flank, Weird, Triplet, and Doublet - plus a few others - Star, Neighbor, and Crossroads - were named prior to Apollo 13.  This suggests that Old Nameless was also named prior to Apollo 13, perhaps by the crew.


Commander Jim Lovell had already named at least one lunar feature, Mount Marilyn, when he flew on Apollo 8.  He got further encouragement from geologist Farouk El Baz.  Lovell, along with LMP Fred Haise and their back-ups, John Young and Charlie Duke, were already learning to be field geologists under the tutelage of geologist Lee Silver.  As Apollo historian Andrew Chaikin recounts in A Man on the Moon", El Baz arranged a meeting with the crew in an effort to convince them that they - and particuarly CMP Ken Mattingly - could do useful geologic observations during their time in lunar orbit.   In preparation for the meeting, El Baz convered the walls of the room with maps showing the ground they would see from orbit.

"Anyone can look", he told them, "but few really see.  We don't know very much about the moon.  You have a chance to help us know more."  Then he took the men on a tour of the moon, reciting from his mental data bank of landmarks and lunar mysteries, describing the lay of the land and sneaking in a good bit of geology along the way.  He could tell Lovell and Mattingly were still apprehensive, but Haise was smiling with enthusiasm.  Then they asked  questions, and they listened to the answers.  They began to make up nicknames for funny-looking craters they would use for landmarks.  The meeting was supposed to go two hours; it went five. When it ended, Lovel agreed to schedule repeats.  In time, El Baz was meeting with Mattingly regularly, preparing him for a solo mission of scientific observation.



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